Misha commenting on Castiel’s repetitive objectification this season in torture contexts.
I agree so much with this. In SPN, torture has taken on a sexual connotation I find dangerous and repulsive. I don’t think there is anything wrong with scenes designed to be eye-candy - like, e.g., the laundromat-scene in 9x01 - but torture is not sexy. In fact, I feel that torture is one of those plot-devices that should be used carefully and only if you feel that you will have time and opportunity to explore the repercussions of torture on the affected character.
However, in SPN, torture lines up with death in that it is easily reversible. A character dies? No problem, he’ll be brought back. A character is tortured? Never mind, he might be healed or become an angel and - hey - angels don’t feel pain anyways.
I think this is also one of the things that really pissed me off about the context in which we saw Cas angeling up again. It’s basically like Misha says here: They can do all kinds of creepy, disgusting, painful stuff with the character and present it as harmless or even sexy because it doesn’t have any impact on the character, i.e., on his mental and/or physical well-being.
I’ve never been a big fan of whump in any fandom I’ve been in, but with Cas, I’ve come to read hurt/comfort fics, simply because they tend to provide something the show usually shies away from. Maybe this is also what repells me so much about re-angeled!Cas after 9x09: the implication that they can now stop taking him seriously as a character with emotions and limitations and go back to doing with him whatever they want because it’s hard to affect him in any serious manner.
#this show has a long history of sexualizing torture#look at what they did with ruby and meg#stripped them naked on a table just ‘for ratings’#i mean jim michaels even had the gall to admit it#that there was no other reason#and then it’s just rinse repeat with april/cas and dean/abaddon#i honestly think they no longer know how to write episodes without some aspect of torture in it
how can the show write and shoot a scene like this and yet still conclude with “lol, cas had sex! so funny! haha!”
That’s a pretty awful first sexual encounter. I don’t think they would laugh at a friend who recounted a story like this, so why treat it like a joke on the show?
Ugh, seriously, I’m still just
@ how the writers have handled and continue to handle this whole thing.
I don’t even understand why it keeps getting brought up anyway. Like, it’d at least be one thing if the show were actually addressing what happened and treating it with respect, but they aren’t. They just keep turning the whole thing into a joke, having Cas be all “lol, yay, sex!”—which still doesn’t make any sense because they also keep bringing up the fact that she TORTURED him along with that. Like, you can’t have it both ways! You can’t have Cas be all “yay, having sex… with that person who tortured me!” And that’s just on Cas’s side of things! With April, the show went out of its way to make it so that she was a human being possessed by a reaper and that alone makes what happened between her, it, and Cas rape. And Cas knows she was possessed the whole time too! He— or, more importantly, the writers should know better than to have “oh, April, she was so hot~” lines and reducing her, what happened to that. Just.
#i went through like 15~ reviews of the ep and this was the only one that called the show out on what happened #the rest either ignored and brushed over it or made jokes and thought what happened was hilarious
and now i’ve gone through like 30 reviews of the ep and this is still the ONLY one that calls the show out
It’s so sick that people just accept rape like that because of heterosexism! I mean, this was just awful. Couldn’t they have made the reaper get information with torture, like Laura just said above? (torture is also serious and awful of course, but on this show it happens frequently) Couldn’t they have made the reaper possess the girl after they had sex? At least it would have been consensual.
But instead what happened was non consensual sex on both parts: the girl’s body because it was being possessed and didn’t have control over it, and Cas, because he thought she was just a nice girl who helped him, and so he ended up raping her unknowingly. And it’s just so wrong on so many levels. Especially after later in the episode they poked fun of it as if it was nothing, I just!!!
I honestly don’t understand how this was okay’d for filming and then aired, how they could let a topic so sensitive and controversial and serious just aired like that when it could have easily been changed!! (via)